Geroge Lucas has admitted he no longer has any interest in the science fiction genre, before sharing some candid thoughts on the state of Hollywood,

“I really have no interest in science fiction at all,” Lucas said during an on-stage conversation with Robert Redford at the Sundance Film Festival. Naturally, the statement elicited a big laugh from the crowd, considering Lucas’ sci-fi legacy.

The Star Wars director went on to share some pretty contentious thoughts on the state of mainstream American movie-making, claiming that a lot of Hollywood movies these days are “circus movies”.

“Let’s see how much blood comes out when he splats,” Lucas explains.  “Its now gotten to be more and more circus than substance.”

“I get blamed for a lot of that,” he admitted, but he thinks such accusations are unfair.

“If you go into Star Wars and see what’s going on there, there’s a lot more substance than circus.”

The conversation between Lucas and Sundance co-founder Redford focused primarily on their mutual derision of the Hollywood machine, with Lucas admitting that he wanted to be a documentary cameraman before making American Graffiti in 1973.“The studios to me were something to run away from,” he said.

”Studios started treating directors like the plumber, just some guy we hire to make movie. I didn’t want to be a part of that.”

“I grew up in the era of don’t trust anyone over 30, I still believe that.”